Boxing historian Mike Welch is the owner of over 600 audio tapes of
professional prize fights broadcast during boxing's glory days. Through
these tapes Mike has developed a very unique view of boxing's
history... Mike Welch was born blind. Please welcome Mike into the
doghouse...
David Tyler: How did you become interested in the sport of boxing?
Mike Welch: As
a six year old my father got me interested in sports which included
boxing. Boxing was a very popular sport during that time period. you
might say that boxing is in my blood...my grandfather drove his Model A
down to Toledo, Ohio, for the Dempsey/ Willard fight.....July 4, 1919.
DT: What's the first fight you remember?
MW: My
mother used to watch the Lawrence Welk show and they announced an
upcoming broadcast of an Emille Griffith fight. I listen to the bout
and my mother started to give me a "blow by blow" account of the
fight. I was hooked and every Saturday I would stay up late at night to
watch or listen to the fights. My parents were both very good at doing
the "blow by blow" so I would have a better understanding of the
progress of the match.
DT: Did you also listen to fights on the radio?
MW: One
evening my dad told me that soon I would listen to a radio broadcast of
a big fight with a professional doing the commentary. I remember the
fight -- Ingemar Johansson against Floyd Patterson. That was a great
fight...three knockdowns in the first round. That was my first exposure
to a radio broadcast.
DT: So you began to learn more about the sport's history?
MW: Yes,
by the time I was nine, I could name all the Heavyweight champions and
the current top contenders in all of the weight classes.
DT: Who were some of your favorite fighters in the 60's?
MW: David,
my favorite fighters were the big punchers, guys like Dick Tiger,
Florentino Fernandez, Jorge Fernandez, Gene Fulmer, Mike DeJohn, Gaspar
Ortega, and Benny Parret. I also had a soft spot for Sonny Liston. I
think he was sinned against as much as he ever sinned. He had a
terrible family background, he was beaten since he was a baby, and had a
tough life. It was very sad when he won the Heavyweight
championship...he was so happy to win the belt but when he flew home,
there was not one person there to greet him. Very sad story. I also
liked the heavyweight, George Chuvalo....you could punch him till the
cows came home and he would never go down.
DT: As a boxing expert, what is your favorite era?
MW: I
would say the heyday of boxing was the 40's and 50's. That was the age
of great fighters like Fritzie Zivic, Tony Zale, Henry Armstrong, Sandy
Saddler, Sugar Ray Robinson, Jake LaMotta, Willie Pep, Joe Walcott,
Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis...those are just a few of the
great champions from that era. This was the time period when boxing was
at its pinnacle of popularity in America. All of these champions were
treated with respect and held a celebrity status with the public. I am
aware that some boxing historians would argue that the 20's was the
heyday of the sport and that may be true but I would take the 40's and
50's.
DT: It must have been a big change to go from the radio to all television for you?
MW: Huge
difference, if my dad had not been with me I would have been lost. If I
have to rely on the sparse commentary that I get from the television, I
couldn't understand anything going on in the ring. Don Dunphy was
undoubtedly the greatest radio announcer and it was a sad day when he
turned to television broadcasting. What a waste of talent...it must
have been hard for Don just to keep his mouth shut. David, the next
fight you watch try this...close your eyes for one round and see how
frustrating it will be for you to understand what's happening in the
ring.
DT: Did you listen to the recent HBO PPV telecast of the Bradley/ Pacquiao fight?
MW: Yes
I did listen to that fight. I was able to understand the action in the
ring because of all the HBO commentators. That includes Harold
Lederman providing his scoring at the end of each round. And Jim
Lampley providing the compuBox numbers from each round. I could get by
but it's not the same as having a "blow by blow" account of the fight.
DT: Mike, what did you think of the decision?
MW: David,
pardon me if I am out of line but I could have done a better job than
those two judges who scored the fight in favor of Bradley. Such a
travesty. I have heard a lot of bad decisions through the years and
this ranks right up there with the worst of them.
DT: I believe that rounds where there is not a clear winner, should be scored a draw or 10/10. Your thoughts?
MW: That
might have helped in this fight because there was no knockdowns. As
you are aware, the round system was replaced by the point system which I
feel is more fair to a fighter who dominates a round...say he knocked
his opponent down three times. Back in the days of Ali/ Frazier, you
could win a round by a whisker and that was the same if you won the
round by knocking your opponent all over the ring.
DT: Yesterday
we talked about the Ali/ Frazier first fight. You made an interesting
observation about this fight and the two different broadcast.
MW: If
you listen to the tape of the Dunphy telecast you would think that this
was the biggest fight in the history of boxing. Not to take anything
away from this historical fight but if you listen to the Armed Forces
radio broadcast of the event, you would think that this was just a
routine bout. Tim Ryan called the event and several times mentioned
that it was a "dull" fight. This merely illustrates that we can be lead
down the wrong trail depending on how the announcer shapes the fight
for his listeners or viewers.
DT: Mike, I agree with
your opinion of Don Dunphy as the best "blow by blow" boxing announcer
in the sports history...any other announcers that you enjoyed?
MW: He
was my favorite...I also liked Les Keiter, Sam Taub, and Russ
Hodges. Clem McCarthy was popular during that time but I would not put
him on the same level as the others I mentioned.
DT: We
also spoke briefly about one of my favorite movies -- The Cinderella
Man -- the story of James J. Braddock. Please share your observations
with our readers.
MW: We discussed the
fact that the movie did embellish his fight with Max Baer. Fans who
have listen to the broadcast of the event or watched a tape of the
fight, will tell you that it was a very dull event. Not with all the
drama that the movie producers added to the fight.
DT: Is there a boxing book that you have read or listen on tape that you would recommend to our readers?
MW: My favorite is Mike Silver's book The Arc of Boxing -- a great book
that is a good profile of what's happen to boxing through the years
using irrefutable logic to explain the rise and fall of this sport.
It's far from a "feel good" book...it's like taking bitter
medicine. Mike Silver's book is truly a masterpiece. l also liked a
book called In This Corner... which is essentially a collection of
interviews with boxers through the ages. The chapter about Gunboat
Smith is top notch reading. I try and listen or read everything boxing
related that's available. I also helped provide information through my
collection of fight tapes for boxing authors. I would recommend Beyond
Glory: Joe Louis and Max Schmelling and a World on the Brink. I have
helped several boxing authors with their books by providing them copies
of certain fights that I have in my library. I have also helped the
networks like ESPN or HBO when they need some archive audio of certain
fights. I mention this because it makes me feel good to make some
contribution to this sport that I have gained so much pleasure through
the years.
DT: What are some of the changes necessary for boxing to survive?
MW: Good question...people may call me "old school" but boxing needs to
get back to an eight champion format. Also, championship fights should
be 15 rounds and the referee should play a part in the judging. Of
course the sport should be run by one sanctioning body. Now I am sure
these are the standard answers you get from the older boxing fans that
you have interviewed. But the real question is can you see any of
these changes taking place? I really doubt it.
DT: Mike, what do you see in your Crystal Ball for boxing's future?
MW: I
think that the sport will be lucky to survive another 25 years. I hate
to paint a bleak picture but I use this reasoning...When you go back to
the turn of the century, boxing was a way for the very poor to climb
out of the ghetto but now these kids are migrating to other areas of the
sports world to achieve fame. They have found this an easier path than
getting your "brain scrambled" in the world of professional prize
fighting. It just makes sense that there will be other avenues open up
for these kids in the near future. You see more and more information
coming from the great brain surgeons doing research on
concussions. Just look at what's happening to football. I think it is
wrong to give up hope but at the same time we need to take a realistic
look at the overall health of boxing.
DT: Mike, thank you for sharing your thoughts and views about boxing with our readers. It's been my pleasure.
MW: No problem and please stay in touch!
Readers: If
you are interested in obtaining an audio copy of your favorite fight,
please contact me via e-mail and I will pass along the information to
Mike Welch.
Many thanks for visiting doghouse boxing.